It's the twelfth or thirteenth time I've traveled around France, I don't remember. Since 1989 I have been coming to Perpignan for the fifth time, and I am 47 years old. I'm not doing this for myself, but I know it works for me. To meet eight hundred people in such a hole, it cannot be in vain. Once I even forgot what city I was in. Chirac told me that he himself always writes down the place of the meeting in large letters.